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14er Ski Descents – Mount Bross – April 25, 2009

Ethics, Aesthetics, and Mount Bross

Christy decided it was time for a challenge. Through the years she had honed her skills on peaks in the San Juans, Sangres and Elks and she was at her peak in terms of physical and mental toughness. The weather looked good, the snowpack was stable– everything was right. She was ready for Mount Bross.

Mount Bross – 14,172 ft.

The line:

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This required perfect execution. The alpine start (6:30am from Aspen) was followed by an exhausting 3 hour drive to the trailhead. Multiple stops for coffee refills and gas station food got us through. We left the trailhead to start up the imposing east face right on schedule (10am) and after a grueling two hour effort, we were on the summit.

Here she is on top, appearing somewhat nervous yet ready for the harrowing descent.

Christy's ready to go

Christy’s ready to go.

Wait, what is this?

It looks tight!

Seriously???

??? – hold on here – what is this?

Oh yeah. This is going to be sweet!

Seriously??

Ready, Set...

Ready, Set…

STOP!!!

STOP!!!

This is ridiculous

Ridiculous, isn’t it?

This looks a little better

About 300 steps later it begins to look better.

Now were talking

[end facetious tone]

Apologies in advance to any Bross lovers out there but for whatever reason, back in the formative years, those in charge of designing mountains had a bad day when styling Mount Bross. It’s a big boring pile of rocks whose summit is as flat as a pancake. To make matters worse, the wind frequents Mount Bross with such force that standing on the summit can feel like your on the wing of a 777 in flight. Thanks to that wind it’s often devoid of snow, let alone in good condition for skiing. But it’s an official 14er so for some that means one thing, 14er skiers will have to visit Bross and try to ski it from the top.

Which brings me to the whole point of this post. Through the years I’ve seen and heard some back-and-forth about 14er skiing ethics and the summit descent rule, and Bross often gets brought into it. Some time ago Lou Dawson wrote down some thoughts on summit skiing ethics and his opinion as to what counts, which can be read here. The important statement in it, relevant to today, is this– “skiing the best (most often the longest) continuous descent available on an average snow year“.

Saturday represented a pretty good, or at least average, amount of snow on a commonly skied line, yet it didn’t start from the absolute highest point, it was nearly 300 paces away (though with minimal vertical loss). Had there been recent snow that somehow wasn’t immediately blown away, we couldn’t even have skied from the highest point to the edge of Moose Gulch, we would have had to walk with our skis on our feet– it’s that flat. And the other flanks of the peak were no better. In my opinion, there’s no need to split hairs over this peak and when Lou put into words his ideas on summit ski descent ethics, he wasn’t doing it with Bross in mind. The dry summit and marginally filled in couloir we found on Saturday was right on par with what you get from Bross on an average year, so count it.

With so many peaks on the list and the rise in popularity of skiing them all, it would be nice to have a simple rule that everyone could follow but unfortunately that isn’t the case. While most 14ers can easily be skied from their exact summits, there are several that cannot and are therefore subject to their own unique criteria. And there are still others that through time have been allowed some flexibility. To give some examples, Mount Wilson and Wetterhorn have been descended by some with skis on their feet, but to many the rocky downclimbing with skis it isn’t real skiing– to many it’s outright dangerous. The Snake Couloir on Sneffels is considered a summit ski to some even though you rappel from the top without wearing skis, while another easier line exists that goes right off the top. I like the Snake.  And though it isn’t debated as much as these first three, I don’t believe anyone skis off the true boudler-topped summit of Sunlight, nor should they have to. As for Bross, I’ve  heard of a guy who was there right after a storm and managed to cover the 300 strides over to the actual ski line, with skis on his feet. I say congratulations, I hope that flat walk was special. But those conditions were not typical. On the average year the continuous snow doesn’t go from the true summit.

In sum, there is a certain amount of common sense needed when determining what counts, and the “on the average year” rule is the most straightforward and simple benchmark, even if interpretations vary from time to time. If you think about it, it really makes sense. Don’t go nuts trying to repeat what someone skied after some huge storm and definitely don’t stress over Bross.

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Christy, half way down the 3000 foot descent.

It looks pretty average to me.

8 comments to 14er Ski Descents – Mount Bross – April 25, 2009

  • uncle pat

    Bless you my child !

  • Liz

    Ted, your logical mind is a thing to
    behold.
    Christy, congratulations on another 14er!

  • Haha I wonder who that guy was? Nice work.

  • Kidd

    Having trouble with your blog, its cut off on the right side.

  • Kidd

    This is all eastcoast nonsense. Just go ski, who cares who skied what and when. Ever noticed hardly anyone from the west is into this competition
    to see who’s the most extremo, I mean Dawson is from New Jersey already.

  • ted

    Kidd- Sorry about the cutoff, the theme is set to 1100 pixels width so on monitors with smaller resolution I think the center column gets cut on its right side and you have to scroll from R to L which is a hassle. Hopefully I can straighten it out.

    As for the nonsense, you’re right, 100%. Unfortunately, some “rules” had to be established to keep some integrity to the whole claim to skiing a peak and not simply skiing “on” a peak. For most everyone, your thought the “Just go ski” is the right one, and yes, no one should care. Recently I’ve found I don’t care for the silly summit rules yet I did subscribe to them when trying to finish skiing all the peaks and I think others should too, that is, when it is appropriate, which as the point of the whole story. All sports and their associated records and claims follow certain guidelines, from NASCAR to darts to skiing and climbing.

    Without the silliness, someone might go ski well below the summit of a mountain, any mountain, from
    Mount Elbert to Mount Everest, and declare having skied the peak and if they make that claim then they should go from the top, right?

    Dawson’s from Jersey?

  • Kidd

    Your right I’m sorry. Just got a little peaved with this whole non-sense. I mean to be official you’d have to shovel snow on top of some of these peaks to ‘ski’ down them.
    I’m more interested in Lines of ascent and descent. Sometimes just fun and sometimes a challenge. As to your talking about rules, skiing didn’t even have these discussions
    until recently when certain people had to show everyone what they skied and how cool they are. If someone declares incorrectly that they skied a peak who cares, they will
    be found out eventually, its called Karma.

  • ted

    It can definitely get silly. Like you said you’re way better off to just going skiing and not concerning yourself with the nonsense.

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